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		<title>By: Tehila</title>
		<link>http://www.arcurs.com/stock-buyers-are-geeksare-you/comment-page-1#comment-27631</link>
		<dc:creator>Tehila</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Feb 2011 10:22:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As a buyer that often uses your images, I find that the Girl-Next-Door criteria is critical, as is the &quot;many photos from the same shoot&quot;. In fact, I often use images of the same model (dark-haired middle-age woman with lovely blue eyes) in my magazine because you include so many shots of her in everyday situations. I would also add that it would be nice if there could be more images of group interactions that are not all positive (i.e. children being corrected, teens in conflict with teachers, friends confronting one another about ethical issues, etc.) mixed in the shoot so the designer can tell the story. Family life, for instance, is full of a massive range of emotions. If photos only show a happy, all-together family, they are only of limited use to those (like me)  who have to illustrate articles. I design for a family magazine and there are very few images (relative to the amount of photos available) that suit this niche.

I am not saying this personally to you, since I think one of your strengths is bringing every-day and serious images in with the happy ones, I&#039;m just saying this as a stock buyer.

I recently spent some time looking at vintage ads and found that they (surprisingly) used family interactions to advertise their products more than beautiful models. Perhaps it would be wise to take a cue from them (since there is a definite and continuing trend to return to vintage looks and feels in advertising.)

One more piece I would love to give to stock photographers - look for wide ethnic appeal in models (i.e. dark hair and medium eyes) and wide age range. There are some women that can be either European or Middle-Eastern or Latina, depending on what they are wearing and their context. I would love to see more photos of people who live in the center/south of the planet and more photos of people in the 35-55 age range doing normal, everyday stuff.

Oh, and don&#039;t crop the images too much, photographers. I need that background or top-of-the-head you just cropped out to merge my image with my copy area. It&#039;s a hard balance, to make an esthetically pleasing shot with enough background detail to be functional. Unfortunately, my copy space is rarely suited to a 5x7 rectangular composition.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As a buyer that often uses your images, I find that the Girl-Next-Door criteria is critical, as is the &#8220;many photos from the same shoot&#8221;. In fact, I often use images of the same model (dark-haired middle-age woman with lovely blue eyes) in my magazine because you include so many shots of her in everyday situations. I would also add that it would be nice if there could be more images of group interactions that are not all positive (i.e. children being corrected, teens in conflict with teachers, friends confronting one another about ethical issues, etc.) mixed in the shoot so the designer can tell the story. Family life, for instance, is full of a massive range of emotions. If photos only show a happy, all-together family, they are only of limited use to those (like me)  who have to illustrate articles. I design for a family magazine and there are very few images (relative to the amount of photos available) that suit this niche.</p>
<p>I am not saying this personally to you, since I think one of your strengths is bringing every-day and serious images in with the happy ones, I&#8217;m just saying this as a stock buyer.</p>
<p>I recently spent some time looking at vintage ads and found that they (surprisingly) used family interactions to advertise their products more than beautiful models. Perhaps it would be wise to take a cue from them (since there is a definite and continuing trend to return to vintage looks and feels in advertising.)</p>
<p>One more piece I would love to give to stock photographers &#8211; look for wide ethnic appeal in models (i.e. dark hair and medium eyes) and wide age range. There are some women that can be either European or Middle-Eastern or Latina, depending on what they are wearing and their context. I would love to see more photos of people who live in the center/south of the planet and more photos of people in the 35-55 age range doing normal, everyday stuff.</p>
<p>Oh, and don&#8217;t crop the images too much, photographers. I need that background or top-of-the-head you just cropped out to merge my image with my copy area. It&#8217;s a hard balance, to make an esthetically pleasing shot with enough background detail to be functional. Unfortunately, my copy space is rarely suited to a 5&#215;7 rectangular composition.</p>
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		<title>By: Anton van Zijl</title>
		<link>http://www.arcurs.com/stock-buyers-are-geeksare-you/comment-page-1#comment-12564</link>
		<dc:creator>Anton van Zijl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Sep 2010 09:42:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Yuri, I have been looking through you blogs, and video blogs. Awesome stuff, really inspires me to do better work. Thanks for this article. Very interesting. I&#039;m going to push myself, so that I can do this as a full time career. (I studied 3 years photography... and you can learn more on the internet!!).

ps. love your monopod setup :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Yuri, I have been looking through you blogs, and video blogs. Awesome stuff, really inspires me to do better work. Thanks for this article. Very interesting. I&#8217;m going to push myself, so that I can do this as a full time career. (I studied 3 years photography&#8230; and you can learn more on the internet!!).</p>
<p>ps. love your monopod setup <img src='http://www.arcurs.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: HS</title>
		<link>http://www.arcurs.com/stock-buyers-are-geeksare-you/comment-page-1#comment-2406</link>
		<dc:creator>HS</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 02 May 2009 15:09:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There&#039;s a middleman between the stock buyer and photographer, I&#039;m planning to do some shoots regarding mental health, Rejection hurts.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There&#8217;s a middleman between the stock buyer and photographer, I&#8217;m planning to do some shoots regarding mental health, Rejection hurts.</p>
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		<title>By: Yuri Arcurs</title>
		<link>http://www.arcurs.com/stock-buyers-are-geeksare-you/comment-page-1#comment-2087</link>
		<dc:creator>Yuri Arcurs</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Apr 2009 17:19:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>To Dean Mitchell. Writing and blogging is my hobby. Microstock is pays my bills. Psychology (I still study) keeps me sharp and training keeps me alive. :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To Dean Mitchell. Writing and blogging is my hobby. Microstock is pays my bills. Psychology (I still study) keeps me sharp and training keeps me alive. <img src='http://www.arcurs.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Beth</title>
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		<dc:creator>Beth</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Apr 2009 16:56:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Good for people to know.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good for people to know.</p>
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		<title>By: Dean Mitchell</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dean Mitchell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Apr 2009 20:35:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Yuri,

 Thanks for that article - I don&#039;t know how you find the time to research and write such in depth features as well as run your business. Fantastic (written) English by the way -  Anyway thanks for sharing! 

I have always believed in info sharing and continue to do so as long as people want to ask me questions. 

I&#039;m new to micro stock, been trading for just over six months now and I&#039;m beginning to see a good return. However, I read with interest about using real (girl next door) models. I have used new up-and-coming people so far that want to break into modelling, which tend to be more real looking and not the great commercial models that you refer to in your couple on the beach shoot, but I can see the trillions of sales generated by this couple through your port aswell as see them in print all over the place so I&#039;ve pondered on investing more into people to get that &#039;commercial&#039; look for my own shoots. I would suspect designers buy good looking people images because, well, we all like a pretty face after all and many people react differently to attractive people. For instance, an advertising agency and art director would use this type of model (your beach couple) to advertise sun lotion say, as to entice people into buying it. I believe a pale couple with crooked teeth may not do the same even if it were a good representation of my fellow countryman here in the UK - just kidding there are some good looking people here! With that said, I&#039;ve found my best selling images are all of the above you mentioned. My partner who is a beautiful Scandinavian like your models, who works in the care industry, posed for a shoot with her clients - real people, old, over seventy infact and in their own homes along with there dated curtains. Although I would never say the images are award winners, each shoot has a story attached, conceptual background and real looking people involved. These are by a million miles my most successful shots to date and the reason why I can pay my bills everyday!

My conclusion is this: Perhaps there is room for both types of model, it just depends on what content they are used. It still requires plenty of thought and planning on the photographers behalf. Look at magazines which contain lifestyle images and study the supermarket shelves for the faces that sell the products and plan around what you see already works. 

You got me thinking however, so thank you. I won&#039;t go and spent profusely on commercial models just yet until my planned briefs require it.

Just to add finally. There is a daily &#039;soap&#039; ,series whatever you want to call it, called &#039;Hollyoaks&#039; here in the UK that my partner forces me to watch - um honest!. It has a target audience of millions and is repeated repeated repeated everyday. One of you images (of cecilie, grey top, side on, isolated) appeared printed on a poster in a bus stop during a scene today. Just thought you may like to know your image has been viewed by millions in the UK.

Cheers look forward to sharing more info in the future.

Dean</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Yuri,</p>
<p> Thanks for that article &#8211; I don&#8217;t know how you find the time to research and write such in depth features as well as run your business. Fantastic (written) English by the way &#8211;  Anyway thanks for sharing! </p>
<p>I have always believed in info sharing and continue to do so as long as people want to ask me questions. </p>
<p>I&#8217;m new to micro stock, been trading for just over six months now and I&#8217;m beginning to see a good return. However, I read with interest about using real (girl next door) models. I have used new up-and-coming people so far that want to break into modelling, which tend to be more real looking and not the great commercial models that you refer to in your couple on the beach shoot, but I can see the trillions of sales generated by this couple through your port aswell as see them in print all over the place so I&#8217;ve pondered on investing more into people to get that &#8216;commercial&#8217; look for my own shoots. I would suspect designers buy good looking people images because, well, we all like a pretty face after all and many people react differently to attractive people. For instance, an advertising agency and art director would use this type of model (your beach couple) to advertise sun lotion say, as to entice people into buying it. I believe a pale couple with crooked teeth may not do the same even if it were a good representation of my fellow countryman here in the UK &#8211; just kidding there are some good looking people here! With that said, I&#8217;ve found my best selling images are all of the above you mentioned. My partner who is a beautiful Scandinavian like your models, who works in the care industry, posed for a shoot with her clients &#8211; real people, old, over seventy infact and in their own homes along with there dated curtains. Although I would never say the images are award winners, each shoot has a story attached, conceptual background and real looking people involved. These are by a million miles my most successful shots to date and the reason why I can pay my bills everyday!</p>
<p>My conclusion is this: Perhaps there is room for both types of model, it just depends on what content they are used. It still requires plenty of thought and planning on the photographers behalf. Look at magazines which contain lifestyle images and study the supermarket shelves for the faces that sell the products and plan around what you see already works. </p>
<p>You got me thinking however, so thank you. I won&#8217;t go and spent profusely on commercial models just yet until my planned briefs require it.</p>
<p>Just to add finally. There is a daily &#8216;soap&#8217; ,series whatever you want to call it, called &#8216;Hollyoaks&#8217; here in the UK that my partner forces me to watch &#8211; um honest!. It has a target audience of millions and is repeated repeated repeated everyday. One of you images (of cecilie, grey top, side on, isolated) appeared printed on a poster in a bus stop during a scene today. Just thought you may like to know your image has been viewed by millions in the UK.</p>
<p>Cheers look forward to sharing more info in the future.</p>
<p>Dean</p>
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		<title>By: Yuri Arcurs</title>
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		<dc:creator>Yuri Arcurs</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Apr 2009 13:35:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Betsy: Excellent Q&#039;s. 

You wrote: 

Do you think it is important to specialize and shoot a specific kind of stock?
Absolutely. With the kind of competition today you really need specialization. Specialize as much as possible, but don&#039;t specialize in a non-selling niche subject matter however. 

Do you think that still-life concept shooting is a commercially viable specialty?
Yes. But there are some really great shooters out there. I can&#039;t compete in this area. The guys shooting still life are just too damn good! :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Betsy: Excellent Q&#8217;s. </p>
<p>You wrote: </p>
<p>Do you think it is important to specialize and shoot a specific kind of stock?<br />
Absolutely. With the kind of competition today you really need specialization. Specialize as much as possible, but don&#8217;t specialize in a non-selling niche subject matter however. </p>
<p>Do you think that still-life concept shooting is a commercially viable specialty?<br />
Yes. But there are some really great shooters out there. I can&#8217;t compete in this area. The guys shooting still life are just too damn good! <img src='http://www.arcurs.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Gary Lewis</title>
		<link>http://www.arcurs.com/stock-buyers-are-geeksare-you/comment-page-1#comment-2035</link>
		<dc:creator>Gary Lewis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Apr 2009 21:51:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nice column, Yuri. If there is anyone who I would take some advice from, it is you. I like the way you second guess the obvious -- Like more cleavage is better :) As a submitter *and* user, I know exactly what you mean. A top automotive client doesn&#039;t want and/or can&#039;t use the Hooters girl in their presentation, no matter how beautiful she might be.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nice column, Yuri. If there is anyone who I would take some advice from, it is you. I like the way you second guess the obvious &#8212; Like more cleavage is better <img src='http://www.arcurs.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' />  As a submitter *and* user, I know exactly what you mean. A top automotive client doesn&#8217;t want and/or can&#8217;t use the Hooters girl in their presentation, no matter how beautiful she might be.</p>
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		<title>By: Betsy</title>
		<link>http://www.arcurs.com/stock-buyers-are-geeksare-you/comment-page-1#comment-2032</link>
		<dc:creator>Betsy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Apr 2009 20:59:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yuri, in your comment prior to my response, you said, &quot;Can no-one see how much this guy is hurting IS?&quot;

I assumed that you meant that Lobo was hurting IS (Istock.) I didn&#039;t mean to imply that you were doing the hurting. I meant that it might be a stretch to say that enforcing forum rules by locking your thread is a stretch. It doesn&#039;t help, but most people are going to continue shooting the same way regardless of your thread. I for one, am going to try to shoot differently, but will likely fail and end up with some kitschy, useless stuff.

Question to Yuri and those reading this comment board:

Do you think it is important to specialize and shoot a specific kind of stock?
Do you think that still-life concept shooting is a commercially viable specialty?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yuri, in your comment prior to my response, you said, &#8220;Can no-one see how much this guy is hurting IS?&#8221;</p>
<p>I assumed that you meant that Lobo was hurting IS (Istock.) I didn&#8217;t mean to imply that you were doing the hurting. I meant that it might be a stretch to say that enforcing forum rules by locking your thread is a stretch. It doesn&#8217;t help, but most people are going to continue shooting the same way regardless of your thread. I for one, am going to try to shoot differently, but will likely fail and end up with some kitschy, useless stuff.</p>
<p>Question to Yuri and those reading this comment board:</p>
<p>Do you think it is important to specialize and shoot a specific kind of stock?<br />
Do you think that still-life concept shooting is a commercially viable specialty?</p>
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		<title>By: plrang</title>
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		<dc:creator>plrang</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Apr 2009 19:31:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Shameless? Sophisticated language.. ;) Jealousy i think - of him of course (moderator).

Must be new at work or maybe drunk, cause there is no need to think a lot to see that Your &#039;picture&#039; is a MASSIVE bait to all &#039;stockers&#039; and wannabe&#039;s.
Same with that article, when people start to cry about 0 DL and so on, such infos-posts keeps them alive.
I&#039;ve commented that at SS cause You give even too much knowledge to people, but the good is that not everybody understands ;) and the competition grows but not so badly (such JOKE;)).
Finally i want to personally send a big thanks to You for one simple trick that i knew, i did read about, i&#039;ve heard and did NEVER tried to use (me - doubtful me). That trick was the -Canon mirror up-. At last tried that after watching one of Your tutorials and i&#039;m angry as for today cause that belief in Canon&#039;s IS was so naive strong! They got me. So keep up the good work;), lucky me with my different image subjects.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Shameless? Sophisticated language.. <img src='http://www.arcurs.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' />  Jealousy i think &#8211; of him of course (moderator).</p>
<p>Must be new at work or maybe drunk, cause there is no need to think a lot to see that Your &#8216;picture&#8217; is a MASSIVE bait to all &#8216;stockers&#8217; and wannabe&#8217;s.<br />
Same with that article, when people start to cry about 0 DL and so on, such infos-posts keeps them alive.<br />
I&#8217;ve commented that at SS cause You give even too much knowledge to people, but the good is that not everybody understands <img src='http://www.arcurs.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' />  and the competition grows but not so badly (such JOKE;)).<br />
Finally i want to personally send a big thanks to You for one simple trick that i knew, i did read about, i&#8217;ve heard and did NEVER tried to use (me &#8211; doubtful me). That trick was the -Canon mirror up-. At last tried that after watching one of Your tutorials and i&#8217;m angry as for today cause that belief in Canon&#8217;s IS was so naive strong! They got me. So keep up the good work;), lucky me with my different image subjects.</p>
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